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- From: s.sanders2@genie.geis.com
- Date: Wed, 8 Jun 94 03:13:00 UTC
- To: gem-list@world.std.com
- Subject: Re: Proposal v5
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- X-Genie-From: S.SANDERS2
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- Reply: Item #1356720 from GEM-LIST-APPROVAL@WORLD.STD.COM@INET01#
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- All:
-
- Ok, ok, so no one likes the SHIFT-CTRL-C 'Copy to...' :) That's
- fine. I still don't agree that a database or spreadsheet could do an
- append easily or intuitively. I think leaving SHIFT-CTRL-V as 'Paste
- from...' would be useful.
-
- I think the ClrHome combinations should be changed too as follows:
-
- ClrHome - Top of Window
- SHIFT-ClrHome - Bottom of Window
- CTRL-ClrHome - Top of Document
- SHIFT-CTRL-ClrHome - Bottom of Document
-
- Lastly, can I get a copy of ST Guide over FTP or something...? Thanks.
-
- Warwick:
-
- REDO is not REPEAT. Let's say that I type some text and then select
- and delete it. Now the UNDO menu option becomes active. I then
- suddenly decide that I need to have my text back so I hit UNDO. Now I
- realize that the text really should have been deleted so I hit
- SHIFT-UNDO which effectively UNDOes the last UNDO.
-
- In programs where only one level of UNDO is supported, REDO is not
- needed since UNDO works on itself. Essentially clicking UNDO over and
- over should toggle between two states. When there are multiple levels
- of UNDO, though, UNDO keeps UNDOing steps and REDO backs out through
- multiple levels. This feature is great... if you've ever used Visual
- C++ you'll see what I mean.
-
- Michael:
-
- I figure a CPX would take about 2-4k to hold everything and each
- program would need a key binding array less than 1k (which most
- probably already do). This isn't very much. you could have 12
- applications using key equivalents and still only use 12-16k. In fact
- that's also not counting the ASCII parsing code especially for a
- program that needs to link to STDIO that didn't need to before.
- You'll need a CPX anyway since I'm hoping this standard doesn't
- expect users to hand-edit the config file.
-
- Tim Miller:
-
- The structure I defined would define RETURN as 0x000D and CTRL-M as
- 0x004D. Every alphabetic key would be stored in uppercase and you'd
- use the shift parameter to determine which modifier keys were down.
- The only ones that we'd have to standardize a set for would be non
- ASCII printable like F1-F10, Help, Undo, etc.. i.e. ones with a low
- byte of 0x00.
-
- Alexander:
-
- I think it would be prudent in some cases to allow more than one
- equivalent for a function. How this would be implemented would have
- to be decided but I know almost _every_ USA program uses CTRL-SHIFT-S
- and every German one uses CTRL-M. Windows does this a lot. Many
- programs use CTRL-X and CTRL-INSERT for Cut. Only CTRL-X is put in
- the menu. A really smart program could display the equivalent in the
- menu for the country it's compiled for but still accept both.
-
- -Scott @ SDS
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